To Make Minced Pies
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To Make Minced Pies
"Take a leg of veal or a large leg of mutton cut of the lean from the fat and slice the meat from the bone, and pboile it and when it is cold shred it very small, season it with some salt, a good handfull of sugar, clovs mace nuttmegs finely beaten, a very little pepper a handfull of Caraway comfits or the seeds only, two or three spoonfulls of rosewater a saucer full of verjuice, two or three pippins shred so smale as they may melt in baking; some orangs and lemons shred very small, such a quantity of Currants as you think fitt, mingle them very well & make them fatter or leaner as you pleas then make little pies and fill them with this meat and lay raisons on the top of the meat and some dates cut in thin slices bake them not to much"
Note on the Original Text
This recipe is written in the style typical for the 17th century, employing loose, conversational instructions and assuming the reader has cooking experience. Quantities are often vague—'a handful', 'a saucer full'—as precise measurements and standardization were not yet common practice. Spelling and wording are variable, reflecting the lack of standardized English orthography at the time ('pboile' for 'parboil', 'nuttmegs' for 'nutmegs', 'shred so smale as they may melt in baking'). The directions focus on process over specifics and presume familiarity with ingredients and techniques now less common, such as using rosewater and verjuice.

Title
Manuscript cookery book (1680)
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Writer
Unknown
Era
1680
Publisher
Unknown
Background
A tantalizing window into the kitchens of yesteryear, this late-17th century collection presents recipes and culinary wisdom meant to delight and surprise even the most discerning of historical gourmands.
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Folger Shakespeare Library
This minced pie recipe comes from the late 17th century, specifically from a manuscript dating between 1675 and 1686. At this time, meat pies—often called 'minced pies'—were festive dishes enjoyed during the winter months and especially at Christmas. The combination of meat, fruit, sugar, and aromatic spices reflected the global trade networks of the period and symbolized an extravagant, celebratory approach to cookery. The recipe demonstrates how sweet and savory flavors were commonly paired in period cookery, and makes use of expensive ingredients like spices, citrus, and imported dried fruits. This was a time of increasing access to such ingredients for the wealthy, and the minced pie was a show of both hospitality and affluence.

In the late 17th century, a housewife would have prepared this pie using a large chopping knife for mincing meat, a wooden chopping board, and perhaps a pestle and mortar for pounding spices. Boiling would be done over an open hearth in a heavy cauldron or pot. Mixing bowls would have been earthenware or wood, and pies were baked in brick ovens or over coals in metal pie dishes. A rolling pin for pastry and simple measuring spoons (if available) or just handfuls and pinches measured by eye would complete her set of tools. No mechanical aids were used; careful hand chopping and blending was the standard.
Prep Time
40 mins
Cook Time
45 mins
Servings
8
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Ingredients
- 2.2 lbs veal or mutton (lean, boned, sliced)
- 1 tsp salt
- 1.75 oz sugar
- 1/2 tsp ground cloves
- 1/2 tsp ground mace
- 1/2 tsp ground nutmeg
- Pinch of black pepper
- 2 tbsp caraway seeds or caraway comfits
- 2-3 tbsp rosewater
- 3.5 fl oz verjuice (or 2.5 fl oz apple cider vinegar + 0.85 fl oz water)
- 2-3 tart apples (c. 9 oz; Bramley, Granny Smith), peeled, cored, finely chopped
- Zest and finely chopped peel of 1 lemon and 1 orange
- 5.3 oz currants
- Shortcrust pastry (for lining and topping pies)
- 1.75 oz raisins (for topping)
- 1.75 oz dates, thinly sliced (for topping)
- Optional: 3.5 oz beef suet or butter (for fat, adjust to taste)
Instructions
- Begin by taking about 2.2 lbs of lean veal or mutton, trimming away any excess fat.
- Slice the meat from the bone, then place the slices in boiling water and simmer gently until just cooked through.
- Allow the meat to cool completely, then chop it finely into small pieces.
- Season with about 1 tsp salt, 1.75 oz sugar, 1/2 tsp each of ground cloves, mace, and nutmeg, and a pinch of pepper.
- Add 2 tbsp caraway seeds (or comfits, if available), 2-3 tbsp rosewater, and about 3.5 fl oz verjuice (or substitute with a mix of 2.5 fl oz apple cider vinegar and 0.85 fl oz water).
- Peel and core 2-3 tart apples (like Bramley or Granny Smith), chopping them as finely as possible so they melt during baking.
- Add the finely grated zest and chopped peel of 1 lemon and 1 orange.
- Mix in a generous handful (about 5.3 oz) of currants, and combine everything well, adjusting the fat content if desired by adding more chopped suet or butter.
- Roll out shortcrust pastry and line small pie tins.
- Fill with the meat mixture, topping each pie with a few raisins and thinly sliced dates.
- Bake at 350°F for about 20-25 minutes, until the pastry is golden but not overly browned.
Estimated Calories
330 per serving
Cooking Estimates
You will need about 20 minutes to cook the meat and another 20-25 minutes to bake the pies. Preparation, including chopping meat, fruits, and mixing, takes around 40 minutes. Each serving contains about 330 calories, and this recipe makes 8 pies.
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